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PostSubject: Imperialism I.   Imperialism I. EmptyFri Sep 29, 2006 4:31 pm

According to the narrator, what are the normal by-products of imperialism? Why?
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PostSubject: Re: Imperialism I.   Imperialism I. EmptySun Oct 01, 2006 6:57 pm

"The unbreakable tyranny of the British Raj upon the will of prostrate peoples: and the Bermese people who made Europeans feel unwelcome in their country". The why??? Is imperialism creates hatered for those who come in and try to change ones ways of life. Much like America and Vietnam and the conflict ongoing now with Iraq.
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PostSubject: Re: Imperialism I.   Imperialism I. EmptySun Oct 01, 2006 8:03 pm

One the first page, second paragraph, the narrator says, "With one part of my mind I thought of the British Raj as an unbreakable tyranny, as something clamped down, in saecula saeculorum, upon the will of prostrate peoples; with another part I thought that the greatest joy in the world would be to drive a bayonet into a Buddhist priest's guts. Feelings like these are the normal by-products of imperialism; ask any Anglo-Indian official, if you can catch him off duty."
The narrator dislikes the British Raj, but at the same time he is working for that tyranny. And he has sympathy for the Burmans, but he dislikes them immensely because of their (he believes petty) anti-european feelings. His feelings towards imperialism are hypocritical and ambiguous.
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PostSubject: Re: Imperialism I.   Imperialism I. EmptySun Oct 01, 2006 10:59 pm

The narrator says that the "by-products of imperialism" are thinking of the ruling empire as unstoppable and immune to anything, another is wanting to kill the people you rule over. I can (kind of) understand wanting to kill the people, because they hate you and you would grow to hate them back. But I don't know about considering the rulers completely rock-solid and indestructible--maybe it's because when you're in another country that your country rules over, you can directly see the power your country has.
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PostSubject: Re: Imperialism I.   Imperialism I. EmptyMon Oct 02, 2006 8:59 am

To some people every government seems indestructable, and some think that they are weak, and that they could do a better job. Typically only the people in power can see what the government is doing. Many governments do things that the people dont find out about until it is too late. For example; the american people did not find out about the Atom bombs that were dropped on two Japanese cities until long afterwards, and it was even later that they found out about the ship that had delivered them and what happened to the crew of that ship
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PostSubject: Re: Imperialism I.   Imperialism I. EmptyMon Oct 02, 2006 4:28 pm

According to the Narrator the by-products of imperialsim are hatred and revolt. This is because the group who comes into the country just takes it over. This entirely changes the lives of the people who live there, so they fight back in every way they can
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PostSubject: Re: Imperialism I.   Imperialism I. EmptyMon Oct 02, 2006 7:42 pm

interesting that the only reason that he gave into imperialism is when the crowd was following him.
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PostSubject: Re: Imperialism I.   Imperialism I. EmptyTue Oct 03, 2006 9:21 am

Orwell is saying the normal by-products of imperialism are opression and tyranny. He is saying that empires do not benefit the countries that they invade. This is definitely a one-sided view, and he should try to metaphorically represent the other side of imperialism as well. I do not see him doing this in Killing an Elephant.
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