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PostSubject: the play: narrative technique   the play: narrative technique EmptySun Oct 15, 2006 11:16 pm

Let's talk about the narrative technique in the play. What did you guys think about how flashback was blended with the interrogation? What was the effect on meaning? What did it say about the interrogators? Was the blond interrogator Julia?
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PostSubject: Re: the play: narrative technique   the play: narrative technique EmptyMon Oct 16, 2006 10:49 am

i thought that it was a very unique technique and it was a good idea. i thought that it was very interesting how they used the interigators to act out what he had written in his diary. it was kind of confusing at times because sometimes you didn't really know if they were acting out the diary or if they were still interogating.
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PostSubject: Re: the play: narrative technique   the play: narrative technique EmptyMon Oct 16, 2006 11:47 am

I found the way that they went through the story with the interrogation was a very interesting way to do things.

I also noticed that the "real" Winston, the one who was tied down, usually expressed what he was thinking at that time, whilst the one acting would do the actual actions. More or less, "real" Winston was representing Winston's mind, and the party member that played him represented his body.
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PostSubject: Re: the play: narrative technique   the play: narrative technique EmptyMon Oct 16, 2006 12:14 pm

I think the replay of the story was a sort of new and interesting idea. They were able to split Winston's lines to avoid over using the prisoner character. It also gave an insight to the way the interegators will do anything for their job and duty.
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PostSubject: Re: the play: narrative technique   the play: narrative technique EmptyMon Oct 16, 2006 1:58 pm

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Let's talk about the narrative technique in the play. What did you guys think about how flashback was blended with the interrogation? What was the effect on meaning? What did it say about the interrogators? Was the blond interrogator Julia?

I Liked the flashback, becuse it allowed people to see how events happened, and especially because it seemed like flashbacks tortured Winston more. I don't think that the blond interrogator was Julia, that girl was just acting to make Winstons interrogation more intense.
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PostSubject: Re: the play: narrative technique   the play: narrative technique EmptyMon Oct 16, 2006 4:05 pm

The flashback narrative kind of confused me because it's hard to tell if it was just a flahsback or if the party members were actually acting it out. I noticed that some people were getting bored and part of that could be contributed by the fact that there really was no physical flashback and no scene change so the lack of change kind of made some scenes drag on. Something I thought was interesting was that even though the Party members are supposed to reprisent the state and not have any emotions, they would start to peek through periodically anyway and that was a good way to show that the government can't completely control the way you feel. Yes the women was Julia because there was a time when they were talking about Julia betraying his much faster than anyone else, the Party member was covering her face with her hands and moving around a lot. She even screamed for him to keep shutting up when he said "we're not at war with Eastasia!"
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PostSubject: Re: the play: narrative technique   the play: narrative technique EmptyMon Oct 16, 2006 5:55 pm

I thought that this was a very interesting way to play out the different scenes and yes i do believe that during certain parts of the play the blonde interrogater was Julia.
At first they confused me and I didnt understand what was going on, but I eventually got it. They were a very creative way to tell the past.
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PostSubject: Re: the play: narrative technique   the play: narrative technique EmptyMon Oct 16, 2006 6:52 pm

I really liked the split narrative. There was an actor portraying Winston in flashbacks, and another portraying Winston as he was watching his flashbacks.

I really believed that the blonde interrogator was Julia. It was ironic because the entire time Winston is screaming for Julia, she's standing in front of him, or she's torturing him. It makes sense since O'Brien said at the end, "You wouldn't even recognized her." The actress sort of froze and Winston didn't even recognize her.
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PostSubject: Re: the play: narrative technique   the play: narrative technique EmptyMon Oct 16, 2006 7:53 pm

I think that the flashbacks blended with the interrogation was a genius idea because it showed the audience just how powerful the play was because it showed that you didn't need a whole cast to act out the play. Even though there was only six actors, the audience definitely felt the impact. Also, I think that the fact that the actors played both parts was a great way to show how much power Big Brother had over them because they very abruptly went from mocking a sex scene to being these extremely serious party members. I do believe that the interrogator was Julia. During the play, I noticed that she was acting differently from the other interrogators. For example, when Winston was asked the finger question and he kept answering four, she said, "Just say five!" This showed that she didn't want to see Winston get hurt anymore. At the beginning of the play, she didn't seem to have any connection towards Winston because she had forgotten about their affair, but when she re-inacted the scenes, she started remembering.
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PostSubject: Re: the play: narrative technique   the play: narrative technique EmptyMon Oct 16, 2006 8:59 pm

The flashback narrative with the party members acting it out was fascinating. It was a little confusing at first, but after I figured out what was going on, it really helped the play. The most fascinating aspect of this was when the party members began to become more and more like the person they were showing. With every scene, they lost more and more of themselves to Winston's life. This was especially true for the people playing Julia and Winston. They seemed to actually begin to feel the emotions that Julia and Winston did. As they lost themselves, this caused one of the other interogators to lose control and start and arguement about the word "me" and "I". It was also interesting how Winston took part. Most of the time he just watched as if he had never actually realized what he had been doing, but later he began to converse with the people playing Julia and his office mates. This was interesting because it left the question on why he hadn't before. It was almost as if he was back in the moment reliving his life. A "life flashing before your eyes moment".
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PostSubject: Re: the play: narrative technique   the play: narrative technique EmptyMon Oct 16, 2006 9:22 pm

At first this was way confusing! Once I realized the interrogators were acting out flashbacks, it made a lot more sense. I found it a very creative way of telling the story. Sometimes I couldn’t tell if the interrogators were just acting it out as Big Brother wanted them to or if they were beginning to have their own feelings form. Like when the man acting as Winston said, “She loves me” instead of “She loved him” and the other Party interrogators freaked out. I’m still kind of undecided on whether or not the blond interrogator was Julia. Some aspects make me think she is; others not so much.
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PostSubject: Re: the play: narrative technique   the play: narrative technique EmptyMon Oct 16, 2006 10:29 pm

The narrative technique was very clever. For the first half of the performance, I was confused but I understood it for the second half. Sometimes I was unsure about whether the interrogators were acting out his diary or if they were expressing their own feelings. The blond woman who acted out Julia made me confused. Well, not confused per se, but at the end, I kept thinking that she was actually Julia instead of the interrogator.
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PostSubject: Re: the play: narrative technique   the play: narrative technique EmptyMon Oct 16, 2006 11:09 pm

Kimolo wote I was unsure about whether the interrogators were acting out his diary or if they were expressing their own feelings. The blond woman who acted out Julia made me confused

I think the interrogators were both acting out the story to better understand it, and at times expressing their own feelings.

The interrogators acted like they weren't feeling anything while acting the flashbacks, but you could tell that they felt excited, jealous, upset, angry, anxious. No the female interrogator couldn't have been julia I think. Because Winston would've had a stronger reaction to her. Why would Big Brother make her interrogate someone she worked with unless to get more info, but they already had it.
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PostSubject: Re: the play: narrative technique   the play: narrative technique EmptyMon Oct 16, 2006 11:26 pm

At first the way they worked the narration in with the interigation was really confusing to me but once I figured it out I thought it was really clever. I thought that this made the effect all that much stronger because these people are willing to act out these crimes to "cure" him.
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PostSubject: Clever Approach   the play: narrative technique EmptyMon Oct 16, 2006 11:44 pm

I feel that the interrogators relived the story in the diary to put Winston’s mind in motion. By reliving everything he had done, they got more details from him and were able to questions him while the memory of the situation was fresh. I feel that this was a very good idea because Winston felt like he was living in the memory and was able to recall all the details. When you want the truth, the best way to get it is to recreate the original scene and try to give as much support to the memory. The way they went about the interrogation created the greatest amount of truth and the most vivid details.
I don’t really know if the woman interrogator is supposed to be the real Julia. She is playing the part of Julia in the interrogation so by the end, I had it in my head that she is Julia. O’Brien also says that Winston would “no longer recognize her” which makes us think that she is right there. Throughout the entire questioning process, the woman is sympathetic to Winston and shows more mercy than the others but there is no way to tell because it was left unanswered.
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PostSubject: Re: the play: narrative technique   the play: narrative technique EmptyMon Oct 16, 2006 11:47 pm

I think it was a good way to easily show all of the story without having to show all of the setting, character, and costume changes a book can have. It was kind of hard to figure out exactly how they were doing it, but that was only for the first few minutes, after that it was easy to understand.
As for if the blond woman was actually Julia, I think that's up in the air. I don't really know. I would have to watch the play again and specifically watch for clues to get a good idea.
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PostSubject: Re: the play: narrative technique   the play: narrative technique EmptyTue Oct 17, 2006 9:14 am

This showed that the interrigators were in as deep as everyone else. they had no choice but to do this too. It comes off like the interrigators have more freedom and choices than Winsten Smith but they dont, they are forced probably agenst their will to do this. and the "Julia" looking girl was probably put there to affect his decisions in the play because Big Brother lost his love for Julias, and they needed him to relize that his love for BB is more important than his for Julia.
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PostSubject: Re: the play: narrative technique   the play: narrative technique EmptySun Oct 22, 2006 3:13 pm

i could buy into the julia/government agent thing. It makes sense with the evident trends of the play. The perpetual display of absolute power would blend with the characters values. Because Julia placed her belief so strongly in the thought that the government can ever control everything, if you flipped her around, she would believe that the government was right and she might as well work for them.

(Also in the play, when she lingered too long after a kiss or maybe they held hands (?), everyone else noticed and made it a bigger deal.)
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PostSubject: Re: the play: narrative technique   the play: narrative technique EmptySun Oct 22, 2006 4:42 pm

I think the way the play mixed the interrogation and the real events of the play was very interesting and added to the overall effect of the play. Since everyone played multiple parts in the story, it was easy to associate between character. Yes, i believe the female interragator was Julia
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PostSubject: Re: the play: narrative technique   the play: narrative technique EmptySun Oct 22, 2006 4:56 pm

i thought that it combined well. it took all of the power away from the main character and gave it to the government that controlled everything.
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PostSubject: Re: the play: narrative technique   the play: narrative technique EmptySun Oct 22, 2006 6:16 pm

I didn't think that what the interrogators were acting out were flash backs. I thought that they were reacting the entire situation so that it would remind Winston what was going on. Maybe it would remind him of something he forgot to write in his diary. I also never thought of the blonde woman as Julia because she played other characters and would get out of character. The part where the blonde lady yells at Winston to say 5, I thought of it as a way to show how some the the interrogators became attatched to Winston and his story.
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PostSubject: Re: the play: narrative technique   the play: narrative technique EmptySun Oct 22, 2006 6:33 pm

The narrative was an interesting tecnique to minimize the length of the story by highlighting important parts. It shows the humanistic qualities of the interrigators while they "break the rules" of big brother. The blond interrigator resembles Julia and could very well be Julia. But it was a bit confusing to tell whether or not the interrigators were acting or really feeling emotions for one another.
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PostSubject: Re: the play: narrative technique   the play: narrative technique EmptySat Oct 28, 2006 12:34 pm

Yea, this was very strange to me, and definately confusing. It was the first play I've ever seen that does that style of narrative, so I'll definately remember it better,
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