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PostSubject: Going to extremes   Plausibility - Page 2 EmptyTue Oct 17, 2006 12:16 am

I feel that the world in 1984 is a very extreme example but that something similar is possible. If you think about history and the time of Hitler, there was an amazing amount of control and the idea of the party in 1984 reminds me of the Nazis. In times of hardship or dictatorship there is the chance that someone could come in and take over as a cruel dictator. I agree with showchic101 because there are a lot of places where people are restricted and sentenced to living under very strict conditions. I think that because we live in the country that is free (for the most part, parents pose a threat), we are a little ignorant to the outside world and the hardship in which other cultures live. We say that there is no way that this could happen because we have never experienced it, however, there are places that are very close or have been very close to this confinement and there was no way to fight back from within. I think that parts of the 1984 life are possible and it is just the matter of recognizing it that really makes it clear how much control someone else has over us.
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PostSubject: Re: Plausibility   Plausibility - Page 2 EmptyTue Oct 17, 2006 8:24 am

It doesn't much matter which society it is, so long as it has some form of organization to itself and possesses a government over it. Corruption via excessive power is something that has the potential to happen to anyone if they don't control themselves with it; it doesn't matter which end of the political spectrum they profess to be a part of. Then again, the bigger we allow a government to become, the more power there is manifested in each office and thus the greater potential for abuse of that power. It seems, however, far more likely to happen in European countries before it happens here: regardless of their advanced technology, the European continent is for the most part still made up of bickering, squabbling little children who can't let enmities from the medieval times die. On top of that, the United States still has a Constitution; as long as people respect that, it will be very difficult for this country to become Oceania.
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PostSubject: Re: Plausibility   Plausibility - Page 2 EmptyTue Oct 17, 2006 9:01 am

I think that it could be a possibility that our society turns into something that is similar to 1984. But, several things would need to happen and people would need to get orginized. There would definatly need to be some very influential people in the government that were liked. Then again, I think that there would still be revolts on a bigger scale than in 1984, so the society won't woundn't as well (or as similar).
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PostSubject: Re: Plausibility   Plausibility - Page 2 EmptyTue Oct 17, 2006 9:04 am

I dont think that today it could but possibly in the future when technology CAN control thoughts, movments, actions. Right now we are at a primitive state of 1984
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PostSubject: Re: Plausibility   Plausibility - Page 2 EmptyTue Oct 17, 2006 9:06 am

yes I think the world envisioned in 1984 is possible, I am not sure if it will happen but its definetly possible. I think if you begin controlling people from the time they are born, and you only allow them to see specific information it is possible to control mass amounts of people.
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PostSubject: Re: Plausibility   Plausibility - Page 2 EmptyTue Oct 17, 2006 9:21 am

i think it is posible if you place a blanket of fear on a given genration and destroy what it was really like before, by doing this you can put yourself as a savior
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PostSubject: Re: Plausibility   Plausibility - Page 2 EmptyTue Oct 17, 2006 3:02 pm

No, because even if there was severe structure like that, people still have thoughts. If there was a way fot the government to control people's thoughts, what would be the point of living or having a population at all?
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PostSubject: Re: Plausibility   Plausibility - Page 2 EmptyTue Oct 17, 2006 3:10 pm

Such control would not be possible unless Big Brother was dominated by robots, by computers. These computers would have to take the law into their own hands and apprehent the people they cought. It would not be possible to effectively police everyone's thoughts, it would not be possible for the country to function and be productive with so many people in the police force.
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PostSubject: Re: Plausibility   Plausibility - Page 2 EmptyTue Oct 17, 2006 3:37 pm

The only way this would be possible would be if people were so ignorant to begin with, or if who ever attempted was very "smooth" in there actions, brought the change very slowly so it wouldn't be noticed until it was too late. They would also have to get very good at brainwashing techiques. I don't believe that it could be accompleshed in one generation, however, it would take at least 2 or 3 gerations of rulers who have the same exact veiws to bring the change on slowly enough.
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PostSubject: Re: Plausibility   Plausibility - Page 2 EmptyTue Oct 17, 2006 6:26 pm

people have gone crazy and basicly everything is possible (except some crazy things) so in my opinion it not only can happeen but it for sure will at one point
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PostSubject: Re: Plausibility   Plausibility - Page 2 EmptyWed Oct 18, 2006 1:00 am

One thing's for sure, as highly improbably as a tolitarian government coming into existance is, it won't be around very long, if it all, while the U.S. is still alive and kicking. As much as I don't think we should, the U.S. is the world police.

For example, with Hitler's rule of Germany, we took that into our own hands and said "Hey Hitler, Germany, quit picking on the Jews!" And then we put him in metaphoric timeout, if you understand my little metaphor.
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PostSubject: Re: Plausibility   Plausibility - Page 2 EmptyFri Oct 20, 2006 11:19 pm

I do believe that this Totalitarian government is plausible. I mean think of Hitler and Stalin. They were able to control great numbers of people by fear tactics and persuasion. I can't imagine that many people being behind one person, "loving" him like they all love Big Brother. But it is possible.
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PostSubject: Re: Plausibility   Plausibility - Page 2 EmptySun Oct 22, 2006 3:03 pm

I think it really could happen, just not in the US. Here, the people have way too many ways to go against the government. We can talk about the government in a negative and a positive way. People like Fred Friendly and talk show hosts raise alot of attention to the faults of the USFG. The USFG, although it has alot of power, cant even touch the power displayed in 1984. And those of you who want to argue, you can name as many examples as you possibly can, but the fact of the matter is, DO YOU SEE ANY VIDEOCAMERAS IN YOUR HOUSE?[b]
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PostSubject: Re: Plausibility   Plausibility - Page 2 EmptySun Oct 22, 2006 4:44 pm

I absolutely believe that such a world is possible. What the government accomplished in 1984 was not that implausible, because we have that kind of technology today, just not the means nor the money to use it in the way it was used by the government in 1984
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PostSubject: Re: Plausibility   Plausibility - Page 2 EmptySun Oct 22, 2006 6:51 pm

I believe that a 1984 society could be possible under extreame conditions where the population is in great fear. Under normal circumstances citizens would be furious with that kind of oppression. But in fear, people will do and agree to things that, under normal circumstances, would be considered absurb.
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PostSubject: Re: Plausibility   Plausibility - Page 2 EmptySun Oct 22, 2006 10:14 pm

I don’t think the world of 1984 is possible at this time, it may be some time in the future, but for now it is not. The major powers and the United Nations keep too close an eye on every country, and so it wouldn’t be possible for such organizations to go unnoticed.
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